Comments on: Micro- and Macro-Theme, Immersion, Why Words Are Fuzzy and Weird, etc. etc. https://thethoughtfulgamer.com/2021/07/16/micro-and-macro-theme-immersion-why-words-are-fuzzy-and-weird-etc-etc/ Board Game Reviews, Analysis, and Strategy Thu, 02 Jun 2022 02:37:02 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.1 By: Marc Davis https://thethoughtfulgamer.com/2021/07/16/micro-and-macro-theme-immersion-why-words-are-fuzzy-and-weird-etc-etc/#comment-434 Sun, 09 Jan 2022 01:57:38 +0000 https://thethoughtfulgamer.com/?p=3018#comment-434 In reply to Jorge Zhang.

Sorry I took so long to get to this comment. I agree that in board games we have more agency to shape themes, but I don’t think that much more. Games can carve out pretty specific zones of meaning, and other forms of art can be interpreted in very viewer-influenced ways. Ultimately I don’t think there’s that much of a difference unless you start defining “the game” as the collection of components that people could do anything with, but then you’re off in your own space.

I think that’s a pretty good metaphor for micro/macro theming. Not perfect, but pretty good.

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By: Jorge Zhang https://thethoughtfulgamer.com/2021/07/16/micro-and-macro-theme-immersion-why-words-are-fuzzy-and-weird-etc-etc/#comment-429 Fri, 03 Dec 2021 17:37:31 +0000 https://thethoughtfulgamer.com/?p=3018#comment-429 “I mean, from a literary-thematic point of view, what’s the typical eurogame about? What kind of ideas does it play with? That efficiency wins?”

Found this quite funny :D. Though to take this example seriously, I think that the observable themes should depend on how each game plays out, and therefore changes from game to game. In a movie/book we are the audience observing literary-themes, but in a board game we are in a sense the authors/actors, and therefore have the choice and power to change the story and create our own literary-themes.

Would you say it is accurate that micro theming is about the absence of the board game equivalent of “plot holes” and macro theming is about feeling like you are actually living the role the board game sets you in?

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