Comments on: On Deluxification https://thethoughtfulgamer.com/2022/04/12/on-deluxification/ Board Game Reviews, Analysis, and Strategy Thu, 26 May 2022 02:52:50 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.1 By: Marc Davis https://thethoughtfulgamer.com/2022/04/12/on-deluxification/#comment-558 Thu, 14 Apr 2022 18:51:00 +0000 https://thethoughtfulgamer.com/?p=3496#comment-558 In reply to Israel Pastor.

I don’t think we disagree! When I say simple I don’t mean austere. I love beautiful games and I love fantastic components. I just think that the components should aid playing the game and that they should be considered as part of a balanced whole.

King of Tokyo’s standees work because they reinforce the visual aesthetic. I suspect I’d like Kemet or Blood Rage to have simpler tokens for the infantry to contrast with the monster minis (maybe wooden blocks?) but I’m fine with the smaller minis. Those games are largely about giant mythological creatures so highlighting them with the component choices makes sense (and they don’t get in the way of playing the game).

I don’t see where CoB gets better with minis or elaborate coins, but it definitely gets better with setting appropriate, beautiful art or a built-in insert that aids set up for each round.

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By: Israel Pastor https://thethoughtfulgamer.com/2022/04/12/on-deluxification/#comment-557 Thu, 14 Apr 2022 18:28:30 +0000 https://thethoughtfulgamer.com/?p=3496#comment-557 In reply to Marc Davis.

Sure, those games aren’t Everdell, but my comment was in regards to what you wrote that simple games should look that way. And that is where I disagree.

Components can improve immensely a game, no matter how simple the game is. Imagine King of Tokyo without the standees. It is simply a worse game. because the components are part of the whole deal, as can be experienced by anybody playing boardgames on Steam or Tabletop Simulator. Rules aren’t the game by themselves.

I would argue that great games like Blood Rage or Kemet would not have been as acclaimed if they had used wargame counters instead of huge miniatures. Or picture how a simple set of quality poker chips improves any game with money.

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By: Marc Davis https://thethoughtfulgamer.com/2022/04/12/on-deluxification/#comment-556 Thu, 14 Apr 2022 17:35:28 +0000 https://thethoughtfulgamer.com/?p=3496#comment-556 In reply to Israel Pastor.

Compared to some of the deluxe stuff we’re seeing those two games are quaint. But I’m not against any premium components. I completely agree that the bags with those snaps makes Sheriff of Nottingham what it is, and that’s the kind of thoughtful upgrade that works best.

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By: Marc Davis https://thethoughtfulgamer.com/2022/04/12/on-deluxification/#comment-555 Thu, 14 Apr 2022 17:32:06 +0000 https://thethoughtfulgamer.com/?p=3496#comment-555 In reply to cliosboardgames.

Haha, yeah! I’m a big fan of “deluxe” as defined by wargamers.

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By: Israel Pastor https://thethoughtfulgamer.com/2022/04/12/on-deluxification/#comment-554 Thu, 14 Apr 2022 15:44:00 +0000 https://thethoughtfulgamer.com/?p=3496#comment-554 2. A game should only be blinged out, for lack of a better term, in proportion to its aim. […]Let simple games be simple. Complex visuals ought to be justified by the game they’re a part of.

I think I disagree about that point and my argument is King of Tokyo. It’s a superdeluxified Yahtzee and I wouldn’t have it any other way. I am sure there are other examples, like maybe Sheriff of Nottingham, where unnecessary components make the game better.

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By: cliosboardgames https://thethoughtfulgamer.com/2022/04/12/on-deluxification/#comment-553 Wed, 13 Apr 2022 19:12:59 +0000 https://thethoughtfulgamer.com/?p=3496#comment-553 Great post!
I find it amusing that in regular board gaming “deluxe” means this huge box, metal coin, plastic mini extravaganza – whereas in wargaming, rounded counters and a mounted map will qualify a game for deluxe status…

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By: Marc Davis https://thethoughtfulgamer.com/2022/04/12/on-deluxification/#comment-552 Tue, 12 Apr 2022 15:06:49 +0000 https://thethoughtfulgamer.com/?p=3496#comment-552 In reply to RALF BRECHTEL.

I find myself far more willing to drop over $100 on something that’s expensive because it’s niche (a Splotter or 18xx game, which I’ve done a couple of times) rather than one that’s expensive because of a lot of pieces.

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By: RALF BRECHTEL https://thethoughtfulgamer.com/2022/04/12/on-deluxification/#comment-551 Tue, 12 Apr 2022 07:23:16 +0000 https://thethoughtfulgamer.com/?p=3496#comment-551 A good game is a good game. First in line this have nothing to do with deluxe. For me, quality means the cards, the tokens don’t wear out too fast. Sure, it is nice to have a great amount of miniatures in a game. But when i saw the prices for such deluxe games, i can’t breathe. I will never pay over $ 100 or more for a game for the reason it has deluxe meeples or deluxe laminated cards. Instead, i surely will buy two or three other games which interessed me for a cheaper price. So i see, that those expensive games lead people to buy only that game. Without such an expensive deluxe edition game, they have buyed 2 or 3 other games. This leads to a smaller market.
And those publishers of “deluxe games” shut out people, who have not so much money and can’t afford the game. To me, a dividing in poor and rich gamers. This is absolute annoying.

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